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Old 05-06-2008, 12:54 AM
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Yeah obv, 'cus unlike you I didn't go to church, plus, it being in QUOTATION MARKS I QUOTED IT from somewhere else, durrr lol

This aint an argument about me or you, so hush please <3
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:56 AM
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it can't feel. it's just living off of you.
Exactly, so with it living off of you, it's your body you can do what the fuck you want with it without having 'a life for a life' bullshit thrown in your face, the guidelines of abortion are there for a reason.

I know you're supposed to argue the opposite but fuck ya, I don't wanna
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:58 AM
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Lol I am arguing the op. Maybe everyone should be able to pick whatever side they want but not say if it's their real opinions or not.

I can see Kerry looming. I'm waiting for the big one!
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:59 AM
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That's the point girlies, pro-life people believe that it is a life from the moment of fertilization.

Might seem stupid to you, but it's something I could easily believe with slight manipulation.

Watch this, it's soo cute (and makes me broody haha) you can see how easy it would be to think that...

YouTube - Creation
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:02 AM
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That made me feel so ill =|
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:04 AM
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Aww I think it's pretty awesome!

You're such an odd one, Rosay
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:06 AM
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Haha no don't get me wrong, I don't think I would ever ever ever abort and I want a baby right now, but my goodness is it ugly when it's in ya!
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What? It's cute! I mean, it's kinda ugly when it's a little alien looking thing, but as soon as it hits 20 weeks it's sooooo cute :D Especially the bit where it opens its eyes aww

Btw, do you get my point how people could believe it's a living, breathing, FEELING/hurting life?
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:09 AM
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Ruby I never turned this argument away from the subject, so this was never between me and you. So if anybody should hush it should be you, because you're the one who started all this. I wrote what I wrote for a reason, whether it be harsh or not. I did what the thread asked, and I have clearly stated it is not my real opinion. FIN.
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I didn't start anything I just questioned your opinion, but this is mass debate so that's allowered enit :] I'm gonna be the bigger man and put you on ignore :D

Anywany, the only thing I don't agree with on abortion is that you can have an abortion up to 24 weeks that, in my opinion is abit mehh =/ Tbh, I think as soon as the baby has its organs is classed as a life therefore should be given the right to live, I don't really wanna bring personal experiences into it, but before I had an abortion I would never EVER agree to it, I thought the same, 'MURDERER' etc but once you've been there yourself I don't think you can give an accurate opinion to be quite frank, don't be like 'everyone is entitled to their opinion crap 'cus I know you are I'm just saying enit, till you've been there done that you'll never know until you are in that situation.

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So if you're never in that situation you can't have an opinion?
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:17 AM
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Did you read what I just said
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pf that video was fascinating.
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Btw, she is not pro-life, she's pro-choice

Ruby, when do you decide when a baby is a baby and not a lump of cells then? How can you put a date on that?

For example:

Week 8

Their arms and legs are growing and location of the elbows and toes are visible..
The feet and hand buds have appeared.
Starts to practice moving
The face is beginning to take shape.
Your baby's mouth and nostrils are starting to develop.
Teeth begin to develop under the gums



Week 12

The fetus starts moving spontaneously.
The face is beginning to look like a baby's face.
The pancreas is functioning and producing insulin.
Fingernails and toenails appear.
The baby can suck his thumb, and get hiccups

Your baby now has a chin and a nose and a facial profile. Vocal chords are complete, and the baby can and does sometimes cry silently. The brain is fully formed, and the baby can also feel pain. The fetus may even suck his thumb. The hair is on the head and the fingers and toes have developed soft nails. The kidneys are developed and begin to secrete urine.



Week 16

Baby hears external voices, sleeps and dreams.
Your baby has learned to breathe. This is apparent from the regular movements of his chest, inhaling and exhaling small amounts of amniotic fluid. These actions help the lungs to develop and grow. More developed facial muscles may lead to various expressions, such as squinting and frowning. The baby can grasp with his hands, kick, or even somersault.



Week 24

Taste buds begin to form. If mom drinks something strange or bitter, baby may be observed showing his or her distaste.

After this week your baby is officially considered viable. 36% of babies can survive premature birth at 24 weeks



Remember, abortion is legal in the UK up until 24 weeks.

HONESTLY, after reading that, and looking at those pictures, do you not feel even a tiny bit that abortion is wrong.

EDIT: taken from http://www.baby2see.com
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Week 12

"The brain is fully formed, and the baby can also feel pain."

After 12 weeks is a no no I think, and yeah reading that does make me feel bad
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Yeah but look at the 12 weeks picture though

Seriously, I think I'm actually changing to pro-life now lol

P.S Didn't mean to make you feel bad!
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warning: not nice

http://www.ispub.com/xml/journals/ij...2/poc-fig2.jpg

http://www.donorth.net/winterwonderl...20Hand%201.jpg

12 weeks - That's some ladys baby man, called Joshua =/

Anti-Abortion and Pro-Choice > Pictures

Making a difference: Abortion???

I feel sick, I did that. I killed a baby =/ Wtf man =/
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pleaseee edit those top two pictures into links ruby..and put a warning...

i'm sorry you feel bad now, but you gotta remember that it was the best thing at the time
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They should all be warnings urgh.
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nah its not your fault, tbh i didn't realise how much of a baby it actually is at such short time =/ like it takes 9 months to fully devolop yet it's so erm... baby like in like 8 weeks, i feel so sick lol i'm literally heaving, sorry i ignored you on msn im literally like i dont like this at all, i feel so guilty =/ they seriously let people have abortions up to 24 weeks is sick. sick.
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