If you're in a relationship with someone, what's the most you would do before you consider it cheating?

Grinding on someone?
Telling someone you wanna fuck them but can't till you're single?
Holding hands with someone?

I know none of it is proper cheating but would you feel guilty etc?

This makes a good discussion over hungover tea.

Grinding on someone? What do you mean, dry humping?

The first step to cheating for me is kissing someone, and anything further than that. Anything like telling someone you'd fuck em, holding hands, etc isn't cheating but is just as bad and you might aswell just be cheating if you're gonner do that.
Holding hands isn't anything at all really, but if you're doing it in that kinda way where you like someone else and you wanna hold hands with them, thats quite bad! I don't mean like just holding hands with another boy cause that's okay. (Although I'm a jealous bitch and if a boyfriend if mine held hands with another girl of any sort it would annoy the HELL outta me)

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i consider everything that makes you think about being with this other person over who you are with cheating. Like if your are holding his/her hand and thinking about how good it feels to be with her then i think in a way its cheating, but if you arent then going and kissing her or fucking her then its not harmful cheating but i still think that if you are thinking about how good it feels to be with that person, which you must be thinking to be grinding against them, then maybe you needa think seriously about wether being with the person that you are in a relationship is quite right


If that made any sense at all

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I dont have a problem with caffine,
I have a problem without caffine!

James

Yeah...
I agree with Viki.
I'd call the act of cheating anything above a kiss, but at the same time telling someone you want to fuck them etc, but can't until you're single...
Well you might as well be cheating if you're going to say that.
Obviously the relationship couldn't be that important.

I think that all of those things are mentally cheating on your partner. The biggest indicator is that if after thinking/doing any of those things you even feel a twinge of guilt, you cheated.

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So if I wanted to fuck Beth Ditto would that be mentally cheating?

If you are with a person in a comitted relationship, and you are thinking about having sex, or touching/kissing/whatevering someone else, than yes.

Celebs are not a factor in this question. Celeb fantasies are allowed.

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yeah, this sums up what i think too. (though the end part confused me a bit. lol)

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I got what Chicka meant and that's what I think. If you're thinking about being with someone else, enjoying being with someone else or talking about being with someone else then you're obviously not happy in your relationship.

When you're with someone you really love you don't even think about fucking other people. (obv fantasies are a different matter but yeah)

Although i don't think it's actual cheating until it gets sexual. I would be really hurt if my boyfriend kissed someone else but i wouldn't say he "cheated on me". if you get me.

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Why allow this fantasy and not another?

I'd feel guilty for all of those, and I think I'd feel really hurt if I saw someone I was with doing them with someone else.

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Mark says:
the guy was sick
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then his mam died
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the bitch.

How can thinking about having sex with somebody be cheating? It just isn't possible to control your thoughts like that.

To me, it's cheating once they kiss passionately.
Saying "I'd fuck you if I wasn't with so-and-so" or "I'll fuck you when we break up" isn't cheating, I don't really know what it is but it goes without saying that you'd tell them to fuck off anyway if you found your partner was saying that to people as they're obviously not serious about the relationship.

If I was in a happy relationship I'd feel awful thinking about fucking someone else.

Anything intended to be more than friendly is cheating in my books, whether it's just a quick snog or more.
EDIT - Although there is a limit on what's friendly.

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<3Markeh

You don't consider kissing cheating????

because celebrity fantasies have like .00009% chance of actually happening. Regular people have more of an actual chance.

i agree billie. Saying those things isn't cheating. However, it IS disrespectful.

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who is octopus.

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Rosay/Rozza

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<3Markeh

All very interesting.

HI CHLOE =]

My mate Charlotte at college is a BAD flirt, she holds hands with a lad, chats him up vise versa..and like they grind against each other in a joking manner.
Its never crossed my mind that any of that would be cheating 'cause shes a flirt, and sometimes people are generally like that..I'd call stuff like that flirting.

Cheating to me is where you go behind your partners back and like passionately kiss somebody or go even further.

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Because celebrities are not "there" physically in front of you presenting the temptation. One can dream ALLLL night about how sexy Brad Pitt is in bed, but in reality, the chance of actually sleeping with him is slim.

Whereas if you're dancing up on someone who is right in front of you, the idea and possibility is much more real.

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Its like guys looking at porn, i dont mind my boyfriend looking at porn and talking about how hot the chicks are because i know that he isnt about to go and have sex with them. he wont ever get the opportunity, and thats the same with celebraties. If its a chick that lives just down the road then im gonna be upset because she is actually a threat

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I dont have a problem with caffine,
I have a problem without caffine!

James

Not really. If you have a strong relationship she won't be. You need more trust.